{"id":1608,"date":"2018-02-05T08:45:17","date_gmt":"2018-02-05T08:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/delaydude.de\/?p=1608"},"modified":"2018-05-31T06:16:46","modified_gmt":"2018-05-31T06:16:46","slug":"multi-amp-setup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/delaydude.de\/en\/multi-amp-setup\/","title":{"rendered":"Tips &#038; Tricks: Multi &#8211; Amp Setup \u2013 advantages and pitfalls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/delaydude.de\/multi-amp-setup\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2018\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/delaydude.de\/en\/faux-wet-dry-setup\/multi-amp-setup-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/delaydude.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Multi-Amp-setup.jpg?fit=256%2C192&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"256,192\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Multi Amp setup\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/delaydude.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Multi-Amp-setup.jpg?fit=256%2C192&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/delaydude.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Multi-Amp-setup.jpg?fit=256%2C192&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-2018 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/delaydude.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Multi-Amp-setup.jpg?resize=256%2C192&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"256\" height=\"192\" \/><\/a>I guess none of the guitarists who have ever used more than one amp simultaneously would dispense with this kind of sound.<br \/>\nRegardless of whether you use a stereo setup, running a delay through both amps or chose a wet dry setup with the wet signal coming through the first and the dry signal through the second amp, the sonic enrichment will be amazing.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Some of the digital modulation effects already have a stereo output that can be used with two amplifiers.<br \/>\nBut a setup with more than one amp is also more prone to mistakes.<\/p>\n<h3>Ground loops and hum<\/h3>\n<p>To avoid ground loops it is important to make sure that all amplifiers and the pedalboard are connected to the same power supply.<br \/>\nGround loop hum arises when the signal chain is connected to different grounds.<br \/>\nIf you notice a ground loop (by recognizing a low frequency hum coming from the speakers), please, do never (!) disconnect the grounding of the power plug.<br \/>\nThis was very popular in the 80s but it can be life threatening or even lethal.<br \/>\nToday there are some useful devices that are able to eliminate the ground loop hum without endangering your life.<\/p>\n<h3>Phase cancellation<\/h3>\n<p>It is also problematically when the combined amps do not work \u201cin phase\u201d.<br \/>\nPhase cancellation emerges when the speakers of the amps do not work parallel.<br \/>\nIn other words: one speaker moves forward first the other one moves backward first while the signal is produced.<br \/>\nThis phenomenon occurs for example when the amplifiers work in different ways or when the speakers are wired differently.<br \/>\nBy re-wiring one of the speakers or \u2013 faster and easier \u2013 with a device with a phase shifting you can simply rectify the phase cancellation.<\/p>\n<h3>Lehle<\/h3>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/lehle.com\/DE\/Lehle-P-Split-II\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lehle P-Split II<\/a> provides a very good solution for this kind of problem.<br \/>\nThe galvanic disconnection of the signal avoids the appearance of ground loop hum.<br \/>\nAdditionally, the Lehle P-Split II offers the possibility to shift the phase of the signal which can be pretty meaningful when you combine two amplifiers.<\/p>\n<p>The Lehle Dual SgoS works with the same galvanic transformer but offers beyond that the option to control the different outputs separated from each other and to save your adjustments.<\/p>\n<h3>Radial Engineering<\/h3>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.radialeng.com\/bigshotaby.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Radial BigShot ABY<\/a> also isolates the signal via a transformer to eliminate the hum. And it similarly enables you to shift the phase of one of the outputs.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sorry, this entry is only available in Deutsch.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[265,891,973],"tags":[531,539,530,540,167,537,536,532,535,533,534,538,528,529],"class_list":["post-1608","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-amps-guitars","category-lehle","category-tips-tricks","tag-brummschleife","tag-erdung","tag-ground-loop","tag-grounding","tag-hum","tag-lehle-dual-sgos","tag-lehle-p-split-ii","tag-phase-cancellation","tag-phase-shifter","tag-phasen-ausloeschung","tag-phasen-drehung","tag-radial-big-shot-aby","tag-stereo-setup","tag-wet-dry-setup"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9GLlF-pW","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1648,"url":"https:\/\/delaydude.de\/en\/faux-wet-dry-setup\/","url_meta":{"origin":1608,"position":0},"title":"Faux wet\/ dry- Setup","author":"Delay Dude","date":"Monday February 12th, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"To me a complete wet\/dry or wet\/dry\/wet setup sounds marvelous but it also has got some disadvantages. 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